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	<title>Comments on: An open letter to Richard Branson, Avonline, and Virgin Media</title>
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		<title>By: Laurei</title>
		<link>http://leakedmemo.com/an-open-letter-to-richardbransonavonline-plc-and-virgin-media/comment-page-1/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Summary: Thanks everyone for reading the rather long, complex, but honest letter I put before you; thank you more if you commented - including the pro Avonline boys who made it seem like an actual debate (by posting from the same ip address under different names).

Let me put this bluntly, some people are right Avonline, Cobra, and Kelly&#039;s are no different than any other company out there today, they corporate entitites looking out for their shareholders in a competitive environment and corporations exist to make money - that is all, I just expected there to be human &quot;people&quot; in these corporations who would go the extra mile to make sure they were not inadvertantly f*cking another humans life over for a £ or to hold on to their &quot;stats&quot; - I at least expected there to be management somewhat protective of those who tried to do a good, (complete) job despite the conditions - even if they didn&#039;t get their hands dirty themselves.

I say this is absolutely your own fault citizens - it comes down to this: you complain about everything and don&#039;t do a thing about it because you&#039;re too busy f*cklng around living your own lives to realise that you could stick together, make a personal sacrifice and see change through for the benefit of everybody. As a workforce or a group of consumers you are weak, pathetic, and couldn&#039;t organize a p155 up in a brewery. You are going to get F*ck1ng trodden on in the latter part of this century just like you did when they lorded it over you before. Good luck, I&#039;m out of here.

As for the UK I hope you all catch the rage virus and eat eachother until you go hungry and starve. Just like a &#039;B&#039; grade movie I saw recently.

Comments are closed, any updates will be when Mark Wynn, Richard Branson, or Neil Berkett actually contact me with some developments of what&#039;s changing, if you have anything to say that&#039;s not already been said, feel free to contact me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Summary: Thanks everyone for reading the rather long, complex, but honest letter I put before you; thank you more if you commented &#8211; including the pro Avonline boys who made it seem like an actual debate (by posting from the same ip address under different names).</p>
<p>Let me put this bluntly, some people are right Avonline, Cobra, and Kelly&#8217;s are no different than any other company out there today, they corporate entitites looking out for their shareholders in a competitive environment and corporations exist to make money &#8211; that is all, I just expected there to be human &#8220;people&#8221; in these corporations who would go the extra mile to make sure they were not inadvertantly f*cking another humans life over for a £ or to hold on to their &#8220;stats&#8221; &#8211; I at least expected there to be management somewhat protective of those who tried to do a good, (complete) job despite the conditions &#8211; even if they didn&#8217;t get their hands dirty themselves.</p>
<p>I say this is absolutely your own fault citizens &#8211; it comes down to this: you complain about everything and don&#8217;t do a thing about it because you&#8217;re too busy f*cklng around living your own lives to realise that you could stick together, make a personal sacrifice and see change through for the benefit of everybody. As a workforce or a group of consumers you are weak, pathetic, and couldn&#8217;t organize a p155 up in a brewery. You are going to get F*ck1ng trodden on in the latter part of this century just like you did when they lorded it over you before. Good luck, I&#8217;m out of here.</p>
<p>As for the UK I hope you all catch the rage virus and eat eachother until you go hungry and starve. Just like a &#8216;B&#8217; grade movie I saw recently.</p>
<p>Comments are closed, any updates will be when Mark Wynn, Richard Branson, or Neil Berkett actually contact me with some developments of what&#8217;s changing, if you have anything to say that&#8217;s not already been said, feel free to contact me.</p>
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		<title>By: me here</title>
		<link>http://leakedmemo.com/an-open-letter-to-richardbransonavonline-plc-and-virgin-media/comment-page-1/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>me here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not fair on Avonline.  I could respond to each comment made and rubbish them just as easily as they were originally made.

I think the main point I would like to make is that I know for a fact that Avonline make a tiny profit out of the Virgin contract due to the margins they are forced to work under by VM.

the only contractor that is considered a good payer is one that uses a tax loophole to pay their staff, but this has side effects in that they cannot use their full salaries when trying for mortgages / pensions etc.

In my experience Avonline are a very good employer and they do try their best for their staff, but they are limited in what they can pay, by what they are paid themselves.  They would love to pay their VM techs £25,000 a year for a 38 hour working week, but they would go bust in a week.

If VM want top quality techs they should pay for them, not keep squeezing the margins down.

Then again, if people want to pay vitually no install fee when getting virgin then they&#039;ll have to put up with the installers they get.

the install fee for Sky is far above that of VM, but I know from friends experince that their techs are paid no better and if anything worked harder.

Good luck Avonline and Virgin Media - you do your best in a hard market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not fair on Avonline.  I could respond to each comment made and rubbish them just as easily as they were originally made.</p>
<p>I think the main point I would like to make is that I know for a fact that Avonline make a tiny profit out of the Virgin contract due to the margins they are forced to work under by VM.</p>
<p>the only contractor that is considered a good payer is one that uses a tax loophole to pay their staff, but this has side effects in that they cannot use their full salaries when trying for mortgages / pensions etc.</p>
<p>In my experience Avonline are a very good employer and they do try their best for their staff, but they are limited in what they can pay, by what they are paid themselves.  They would love to pay their VM techs £25,000 a year for a 38 hour working week, but they would go bust in a week.</p>
<p>If VM want top quality techs they should pay for them, not keep squeezing the margins down.</p>
<p>Then again, if people want to pay vitually no install fee when getting virgin then they&#8217;ll have to put up with the installers they get.</p>
<p>the install fee for Sky is far above that of VM, but I know from friends experince that their techs are paid no better and if anything worked harder.</p>
<p>Good luck Avonline and Virgin Media &#8211; you do your best in a hard market.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://leakedmemo.com/an-open-letter-to-richardbransonavonline-plc-and-virgin-media/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I dont work on the Virgin Contract but I do work for Avonline. Due to the nature of my job I hear about the Virgin contract day in/day out and I&#039;m more than aware that there are people out there having problems.

The thing is we have teams here who are happy to help if you do have a problem. There are always people who will help you when you have an issue with a customer/wages. 

I deal with the TM&#039;s and if one of them come to me with an issue its resolved within a day at the most. You will also find this is the same if you approach people in Finance/HR or Fleet we are all happy to help, regardless of rank in the company.

Avonlines techs do a damn good job if there perpaired to put the effort in and things do get easier but is does take time. You cant expect to come in to a company and know everything straight away thats why the hours are so long but when you do get used to the work and you will find that you get through things quicker. 

Anyway goodluck to Avonline and its employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I dont work on the Virgin Contract but I do work for Avonline. Due to the nature of my job I hear about the Virgin contract day in/day out and I&#8217;m more than aware that there are people out there having problems.</p>
<p>The thing is we have teams here who are happy to help if you do have a problem. There are always people who will help you when you have an issue with a customer/wages. </p>
<p>I deal with the TM&#8217;s and if one of them come to me with an issue its resolved within a day at the most. You will also find this is the same if you approach people in Finance/HR or Fleet we are all happy to help, regardless of rank in the company.</p>
<p>Avonlines techs do a damn good job if there perpaired to put the effort in and things do get easier but is does take time. You cant expect to come in to a company and know everything straight away thats why the hours are so long but when you do get used to the work and you will find that you get through things quicker. </p>
<p>Anyway goodluck to Avonline and its employees.</p>
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		<title>By: Burnt Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burnt Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree 100% Percent with this post!
He has summarised everything wrong with working for avonline, every experience he&#039;s had. I have done personally. When I refused to do bad work - My pay was hit severly!

Do not - Take a job with these cowboy&#039;s. It took me 6 months and I burnt out and had to see a psychiatrist! Lost my girlfriend! 6 Points on my liscence! No opportunities to do a damn thing about it!

I was screwed at every turn!

Whoever wrote this post - Thank you from the bottom of my heart! I am glad it is out in the open now! I hope you will become a great success!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree 100% Percent with this post!<br />
He has summarised everything wrong with working for avonline, every experience he&#8217;s had. I have done personally. When I refused to do bad work &#8211; My pay was hit severly!</p>
<p>Do not &#8211; Take a job with these cowboy&#8217;s. It took me 6 months and I burnt out and had to see a psychiatrist! Lost my girlfriend! 6 Points on my liscence! No opportunities to do a damn thing about it!</p>
<p>I was screwed at every turn!</p>
<p>Whoever wrote this post &#8211; Thank you from the bottom of my heart! I am glad it is out in the open now! I hope you will become a great success!</p>
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		<title>By: twiztah</title>
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		<dc:creator>twiztah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My uncle worked for avonline for ages even through the switch over from telewest to virgin or what ever it was and i had heard him grumble bout it and he was one of the lucky ones who gt made redundant.
I met my boyfriend then found out they actually worked together. The times he would come see me telling me how shit avonline was, the hours were terrible he would get home bout  7/ half 7 ish so would get to see me bout half 8 ish but have to leave early to get to the yard early in the mornin just to fart around while everyone was either fighting over the routes, stock or the coffee machine. We Had Several Nights When He Did Not Finish Till Bout 11 Due To Some One Getting Held Back on Jobs And Managers Roping Who Ever They Could In To Do The Job.

The pay was a compleate fuck over and the managers/teamleaders would promise money for favours, money that would never be seen.

The pay slips were more confusing then the actual jobs, there was always deducions for summat unnecessary.

Then Birmingham avonline lost the contract and i thought that would be the end of all the whinging. Then along came kellys, only been a couple of days and hes stayin positive going on about the good things, however, i have heard alot of down sides about kellys so im not looking forward to whats going to be comming out of this one but only time will tell. Lets hope kelly doesn&#039;t end up another Avonline!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My uncle worked for avonline for ages even through the switch over from telewest to virgin or what ever it was and i had heard him grumble bout it and he was one of the lucky ones who gt made redundant.<br />
I met my boyfriend then found out they actually worked together. The times he would come see me telling me how shit avonline was, the hours were terrible he would get home bout  7/ half 7 ish so would get to see me bout half 8 ish but have to leave early to get to the yard early in the mornin just to fart around while everyone was either fighting over the routes, stock or the coffee machine. We Had Several Nights When He Did Not Finish Till Bout 11 Due To Some One Getting Held Back on Jobs And Managers Roping Who Ever They Could In To Do The Job.</p>
<p>The pay was a compleate fuck over and the managers/teamleaders would promise money for favours, money that would never be seen.</p>
<p>The pay slips were more confusing then the actual jobs, there was always deducions for summat unnecessary.</p>
<p>Then Birmingham avonline lost the contract and i thought that would be the end of all the whinging. Then along came kellys, only been a couple of days and hes stayin positive going on about the good things, however, i have heard alot of down sides about kellys so im not looking forward to whats going to be comming out of this one but only time will tell. Lets hope kelly doesn&#8217;t end up another Avonline!</p>
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		<title>By: Avonline Tech</title>
		<link>http://leakedmemo.com/an-open-letter-to-richardbransonavonline-plc-and-virgin-media/comment-page-1/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>Avonline Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 10:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you all live in a dream world you all think the grass is greener. you are sadly mistaken, i hope you all find that out one day.

Have fun you w*kers!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you all live in a dream world you all think the grass is greener. you are sadly mistaken, i hope you all find that out one day.</p>
<p>Have fun you w*kers!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Laurei</title>
		<link>http://leakedmemo.com/an-open-letter-to-richardbransonavonline-plc-and-virgin-media/comment-page-1/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 05:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy with you Sir IRS engineer, enough money for your family, everything you need, they must look after you, I would imagine there wouldn&#039;t be too many IRS Engineers in Avonline so they can&#039;t really cattleyard you like they do to the Virgin crew as you&#039;re reporting to the &lt;strong&gt;project manager&lt;/strong&gt; directly, not a line of 6 managers spanning the nation. And then there&#039;s the pressure of Virgin Media&#039;s bosses you just don&#039;t have to deal with. Like comparing peas and nuts really but hey - they treat you good that&#039;s awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy with you Sir IRS engineer, enough money for your family, everything you need, they must look after you, I would imagine there wouldn&#8217;t be too many IRS Engineers in Avonline so they can&#8217;t really cattleyard you like they do to the Virgin crew as you&#8217;re reporting to the <strong>project manager</strong> directly, not a line of 6 managers spanning the nation. And then there&#8217;s the pressure of Virgin Media&#8217;s bosses you just don&#8217;t have to deal with. Like comparing peas and nuts really but hey &#8211; they treat you good that&#8217;s awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: bolton irs engineer</title>
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		<dc:creator>bolton irs engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since starting for avonline i carnt c were any of u are coming from my time at avonline as been nothing more than briliant my wages are ther in my bank every friday and it is the exact amount sometimes more , my bosses have always been honest with me and the guy who offerd me the job (my boss) we have a good repoor with one another my vans brand new i have all the tools i could ever need and stores is run properly and has everything we need , its sad that some of u feel this way avonline is a fantastic company i love my job an allways have plenty of money for me and my famialy .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since starting for avonline i carnt c were any of u are coming from my time at avonline as been nothing more than briliant my wages are ther in my bank every friday and it is the exact amount sometimes more , my bosses have always been honest with me and the guy who offerd me the job (my boss) we have a good repoor with one another my vans brand new i have all the tools i could ever need and stores is run properly and has everything we need , its sad that some of u feel this way avonline is a fantastic company i love my job an allways have plenty of money for me and my famialy .</p>
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		<title>By: techy</title>
		<link>http://leakedmemo.com/an-open-letter-to-richardbransonavonline-plc-and-virgin-media/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>techy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A message to MAP/KELLYS u think you will do better than avonline think again same poor techs and a couple of poor managers by swapping names is not going to work lets see how long u keep it Watching for your figures and I will post on here every month good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A message to MAP/KELLYS u think you will do better than avonline think again same poor techs and a couple of poor managers by swapping names is not going to work lets see how long u keep it Watching for your figures and I will post on here every month good luck</p>
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		<title>By: happy tech</title>
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		<dc:creator>happy tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lets just say to all you shoddy techs that you lost avonline the areas with your poor installs if you were unhappy why did you not leave or is it your crap and you cann&#039;t get another job
why work for them if it was that bad kellys and maps the same if you think pay is better at map and kellys I would get your mummy or daddy to add it for you as the pay is the same you idiots
have fun with the deductions they will give you
 my ass its not up to the local managers as I worked for map as well u will be worse off suckers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets just say to all you shoddy techs that you lost avonline the areas with your poor installs if you were unhappy why did you not leave or is it your crap and you cann&#8217;t get another job<br />
why work for them if it was that bad kellys and maps the same if you think pay is better at map and kellys I would get your mummy or daddy to add it for you as the pay is the same you idiots<br />
have fun with the deductions they will give you<br />
 my ass its not up to the local managers as I worked for map as well u will be worse off suckers</p>
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